Lutèce Cup

Yeah!
je me disais bien aussi! merci la mise à jour
La yellow force 58 (premier quartile!) (et nous on joue pas en majorité des rosters de tiers 1 comme d'autres...)
la ruelle 61
lutece rhum and cie 67
voilà on retourne à l'ordre normal des choses

B Lutece 20! (premier décile!)
Lutece noobz 21! (premier décile!)


Lutece en Force!

Dernière modification par Skarlan (09-10-2019 11:16:52)

Ashrame a écrit:

oui ils ont changé le classement !
on est passé avec mon equipe de 15eme a 25eme tristesse

Fallait refiler une enveloppe plus grosse…

lepropre a écrit:

Les ties breakers étaient vraiment pas bon

Alchemy est premier Chaos mais aussi 1er Français avec sa 14ème place.

Il est fort.

Le gros truc des sylvains c'est que quand tu attaques face à eux tu es obligé de prévoir comment ils vont te bouffer la balle peinard.
Tu peux donc difficilement t'occuper de leur casser leurs petites pâtes arrières tranquillement.
En défense l'enjeux s'inverse. Tu pars du principe que le Sylvain marquera t'es donc uniquement en mode comment lui peter la gueule ou le faire accélérer.

le premier joueur francais c'est willem, il est premier joueur tout court d'ailleurs.

Hello French coaches

First of all: Congratulations to Amicale du Push Push for winning the Event

Second, I would like to deeply apologize for the events on Thursday and Friday (details below). I want to express my sincerely apology to the Dark Socks, who have suffered the most of all.

Let me assure you, I have tried to give you the best possible tournament in history, I tried to think about every small detail to make it great, I had one chance only, and I blew it. I feel extremely bad, up to the point where I just want to leave everything behind me and be somewhere in a dark cave so I don't have to speak to no-one.

In order to understand what happened, I wrote this for you to see what we went through during these days.

First of all, despite everybody blaming the Software for all the delays, it probably sounds funny or strange, but the Software worked exactly as expected. But if you feed the software with wrong information it will calculate it wrong. The Software has worked at UKTC without any problems, also at Tilean team Cup and German Team Bowl. Only at Bibali Cup it did not work because the preparation of the file was bad. There were misunderstanding between me and the organizers, which lead to a breakdown in the draws. Nothing we could fix that easily. So 3 out of 4 tries worked without problems, the software works, but we knew we had to be very careful when setting up the file.

The whole mess basically started 3 weeks ago when I found out that the glue on the iron foil will not stick to the markers as we had planned. The manufacturer tried several things, but nothing really improved the problem. So I thought that it would be ok for people to use superglue to getter better contact, but in order to help people I made the decision that everybody gets them pre-ssembled, instead of the players putting them together themselves. This was the worst decision I have ever made. It took 2 weeks, 4-6 people working on them until 1 or 2 o'clock in the morning, including myself. Instead of taking care or proper data-entry I was putting puzzles together. Instead of entering all the line-ups of each squad and making sure the manual draw was properly entered I was putting ironfoil on the puzzles.

So on Wednesday afternoon we started to put the skill markers into the bags for each coach.... and on Thursday until 4pm. This is when we make a second bad call, instead of letting the coaches pick their own markers, we sorted them by ourselves... This is what caused the long delays on Thursday.... In the meantime we registered the squads to see who is missing. At that point I knew about 12 coaches missing. Then another mistake happened, which we still don't know who's fault that is, but it is pointless to argue. There was an Italian group which had two squads, but they only send one person to the registration for both squads. Either they forgot to tell our staff who the second squad is or our staff forgot the put a check mark on it. It's pointless to do fingerpointing now, it just happened. So by midnight, shortly before the hall closed, I was given the lists. I put in on inside of my laptop, but when I left it must have slipped out of it. When I was at the hotel the list was missing. Here is when I started panicking the first time, because at this point I also noticed that the squad order was not in the system and Milo had the list on his computer. So I started entering the infos from our webdata base manually and gave up at 2 a.m. in the morning after I had only done 10% of all squads.

I went with Milo early to the venue on Friday morning where I found the missing coaches list on the floor. I started organizing the drop-outs in the way we had planned it. We had 18 drop-outs plus one team (so we thought). In the meantime Milo started to write a script to enter the lineups. Under pressure and his sickness there were some coding mistakes so he had to do it twice. I had called the single sign up squads to me and told them which team they will be with from now on and we sent them to their new squads. We also had to switch one pairing. Now we are already in two hours delay and I had to to start the opening ceremony, which of course also had a technical problem since the server just broke down shortly before the presentation was about to start. I'm on the stage and was hoping Milo was getting the script done. Usually he is very quick, but with his health condition getting worse his concentration was gone. Every few minutes somebody of our staff came in and asked him how long? how long? And we couldn't give any good info. By the time the draw was out, we had 2.5 hours delay. We thought we were in calm waters now. Then the one squad came back and told us there was already some other squads playing. This is when we found out that the missing squad was indeed not missing. Usually I would have called the captain of that missing squad to see what happened, but due to the other problems I was overloaded with work and did not ask somebody else to do it. So we came up with the idea of them having to play each other (it was a squad of single sign-ups and they did not know each other), which they liked.

Then the second game came upon us. Apparently the 7man squads had wildy mixed their team and other people ignored the order we assigned them. This lead to about 10 games to be changed manually, which took time. The next draw was out, but we learned quickly that some pairings had just played in round 1 against each other. So I looked in the Software why this happened. It took a while to locate the error. It was not an error in the code, but a data entry problem. When I did the manual draw during the press conference I have updated the game 1 page with the resultf of the draw, but I forgot to update the center piece of the main window with the pairings, so it still showed a random dummy draw and by accident it only affected a few squads. I'm actually happy that it happened already in game 2 and not later during the tourney. NAF committee came in to see what the hold up is and I explained it to them. Again, Milo wrote a script to extract the data from game 1 and sorting it so I could fit it in my main page. Again that took time of unknown length. So once the draw was out NAF committee and us agreed on dropping the third game especially after the long Thursday.

After game 2, Milo and I went to the hotel and worked until 2 a.m to clean out all remaining mess in the system, except one, but this only affected the two student teams and we were able to enter data manually for them after each draw. We did some tests and we were somewhat confident that it should work now, but we were also confident at game 1 and 2, so we cautioned the NAF committee, that we believe 4 games are feasible, but only if we have more time between games and also reducing the game time back to the original 2.25hours. The 45min in between games was enough to download the results (takes about 5-8min for 1428 coaches), create the ranking (4-6min) and put the next draw up online (5-8min). After each step we have reviewed the data thoroughly to make sure there were no errors. This lead to a perfect Saturday.

On Sunday morning Milo put the 7-man-squad changes on my computer, which I was supposed to put in during the first game. This morning was crazy, so many people needed information and ask question after question and by the time game 7 came to close I still had to put the changes in the system. That caused about 15min delay. Then the 3hour-free-Wifi ran out and in the middle of uploading the data we lost internet connection and it was impossible to get my laptop to do anything. After 15min we finally were able to get the file on a USB stick and put it on Milos computer this was the moment when I ran onto the stage to make the announcement that there will be a delay. In the meantime we had the data uploaded and Milo was running the last checks to see if there are any mistakes left and indeed, he found one. But that was an easy fix, but the upload would take 6min. We still double checked the data again and then we announced the draw. The rest is history

For the award ceremony wanted to look for the best coaches, but this was only possible on Milos database and he missed some tiebreakers in his rankings, which I had in my Excel system. So we cross-checked it while Christian Schwager was writing the award documents. That mismatch between Milos ranking an mine also caused the confusion of some coached believing their squads should not play against each other. Actually, that was partially true, because in my system I accidentally mixed the second and third tiebreaker around after game 6. So games 7 and 8 had indeed the wrong pairing, but only to a small amount. Unfortunatelly it hit Alfea and Masters of Tilea, but at this point of time I did not want to redo the draw and cause more delays. I argued that if you want to become World Champion you need to beat each other at one point, either round 8 or 9.

Water-issue: When we talked to the Caterer the first time (before setting the inscription fee) we agree to a certain price. In April, when we knew the correct numbers of coaches we talked to him a second time and then he said, the price either includes main dish and dessert or main dish and a drink. We chose main dish and dessert because we thought the water price will be around 2 Euros, which we found acceptable. It is a different philosophy in Germany and Austria and Switzerland in regards of meals. Meals rarely are served with the drink included, and so we were not aware of this being a big issue. That the water price was 3 Euros at the end, was also quite shocking to me, but I had little say in this at this point of time. Similar is the case with bread. For only a few meals in Germany or Austria you get served with bread. And I also want to point out, that the Spätzle were all hand-made by the cook, I dare you to look up in the internet to find a video on how Spätzle are made to understand how much effort it takes just to make one small pot of Spätzle. I don't understand the complaints about food, especially after Lucca being hundred times worse on food quality than us. The taste is different for every single person and it varies even more from country to country, that is what makes diversity. If you don't like it, ok, but you don't have to be offensive or insult people.

The other prices were typical restaurant prices....keep in mind on how many catering staff there was to bring you the drinks to the game tables, it is not only the drinks itself, which are included in the price, but the staff must also be paid.

To make one thing clear: 99% of all the mistakes were done by me and I accept full responsibility. But some of the comments on Social media are just cruel.

And I also challenge the French community: you have the World Champion now, you have complaint (rightfully) on how bad the event was run: Next year, the NAF will announce the call for the bid for the next World Cup in 2023. Put a bid together, you are a huge community, you should be able to organize it. I'll give you every support and advise.

Je n'avais pas compris pourquoi tu disais que j'avais été généreux, je comprends mieux

Azzroag a écrit:

Salut les loulous

juste un petit mot pour vous féliciter. la lutece était de très loin la ligue la plus représentée lors de cette WC c'est sur !

de mon coté, nous finissons 6è par équipe ce qui est un excellent rsultat. On aura perdu les 2nd d'un poil et nullé les 3è (qui était vraiment prenables). bref, jamais je n'aurais cru qu'on puisse être aussi proche du podium que cela.

bravo à vous et notamment ashrame et magus pour leur perf sylvaines,, et alchey pour son titre !

A bientôt … lorsque vous aurez enfin viré machin

C'est qui "machin"?

schouf a écrit:

c'est vrai ça, c'est qui maaachin ?

Toi tu sais!
Tu n'aurais pas écris maaachin! juste machin!

magus a écrit:

Ah donc on doit virer José c'est ça ?

C'est moi machin..?

magus a écrit:

Mais vous êtes qui monsieur ? Je parlais de machin moi !

Faut mettre ça au clair...

Ashrame a écrit:

C’est une enquête pour le reporter José !